BharatPremi
10-12 11:10 AM
I will appreciate your comments
RandyK, Yabadaba, EkAuraaya,
Sorry guys I was busy in other forums all these days. Today somehow I visited this forum and found your comments.
Now coming to the point it is very hard for me to put stats from 1999 to till today as a "proof" here but I will try to summarized in terms of events. And generally I will keep my predictions tagged to INDIA only because I have not studied or analyzed other categories greatly.
1) Till 2000 second quarter Labor approval in old system was really fast.
People used to have approved labor in one and half months in states like
california. If you arrived in USA in year 2005 or your GC is filed in 2005 or
thereafter you would not understand why I am writing this but ask the
importance about this sentence to the people who filed GC between 2001
and 2005.RIR was kind of recent concept and zillions of oppertunists were
taking advantage of that and still system was not broken. Categories were
not mattered much like today as for both catgories avg GC time was 2 to 3
years from start to end.
2) Here comes famous year 2001 - USCIS came up with AC21 and
simultaneously RIR catgory was starting having problems as those zillions
in step 1 already started clogging "RIR" and most of them were under EB2
USCIS (Then INS) started denial or tightened screws on RIR filing. Lawyers
started to force non-rir and preferably EB3 only category. From this point
onward category started to be mattered much and that thing is still going
on today. An dyet I have not talked about the mess and pile AC21
created with tons of bogus filings. EB2 clogging already became visible due
to RIR based filings... Lawyers were forcing EB3 and non-RIR filing and
couple ing with bogus filing EB3 Queue instantly became monsterous
(Within 6 months, or by the end of 2001) . Another factor is H1b Visa limit
made 195000 from 65000
3) RIR clogging mentioned in step 2 could become controllable so new filing
again get diverted towards EB2 with the knowledge of huge piled up filing
in Eb3. By year 2002 mid USCIS start experiencing "Adminsitrative
problems" and "huge work load and insufficient staff" and hence slow
approvals for labor. Simultaneously economy bubble bursted. Many
legitimate files became garbage as people were laid off left and right. For
survival in USA those laid off people join the queues of consulting
companies and multiple filings started to become visible.
4) Year 2003 - EB2 faced little retrogression briefly for 4-5 months and
second trend of RIR denials and second trend of forcing EB3- NON RIR
filing. EB3 faced brief retrogression for 2 months. Year 2003 finished with 2
Huge lines. Eb2 and Eb3. EB2 was predominantly RIR filings.. Screaming
already started and it was about to become like July fiasco at the first
quarter of year 2004. Because logically RIR was supposed to be faster
processing and it was serving its own purpose. Somehow USCIS realized
that and in all categories Eb2 started to be processed faster and Eb3 is
blocked. (Hey USCIS had 140000 visas only per year even at that time).
So end effect at the end of year 2004 the infamous block of EB3 got
implemented successfully and EB2 was running like "milkha singh".
5) By the year 2005 first quarter many people had to still wait although they
observed that they are in EB3 trap as economy was still bad. These group
slowly started to jump the fence either using LC substitution or new direct
filing under EB2. I remember one of my frined in California was asking me
that where he should pay $ 21000 for LC to desi comapny or not.
By the end of this process of jumping the fence to EB2 accelerated and
lasted till Year 2006. PERM was introduced.Backlog Centers were introduced.
For the whole 2 years (2005, 2006 and last quarter of 2004) EB3 was blocked
and EB2 was given preference.By the end of 2006 most stuck in EB2 since 2001
were released and got their GC. Now EB3 could start flowing.
6) You already know 2007 events.
7) Bottomline now EB3 will move upwards till 2005 mid with first priority and EB
2 will also brought till 2005 mid but this will be done by moving Eb3 first as
it is already way behind.
8) Once both EB2 and EB3 reches 2005 mid bench mark Eb2 will again
become faster with comparision to EB3.
Note: I have not talked about LC substitution practice during 2001 to 2004 but that black market was already flourishing
during all those years. And Have decided not to put 9/11 as a factor because nobody has a proof that USCIS
decided slow bleed based on 9/11. Yes we feel that but we cann ot produce the proof.
RandyK, Yabadaba, EkAuraaya,
Sorry guys I was busy in other forums all these days. Today somehow I visited this forum and found your comments.
Now coming to the point it is very hard for me to put stats from 1999 to till today as a "proof" here but I will try to summarized in terms of events. And generally I will keep my predictions tagged to INDIA only because I have not studied or analyzed other categories greatly.
1) Till 2000 second quarter Labor approval in old system was really fast.
People used to have approved labor in one and half months in states like
california. If you arrived in USA in year 2005 or your GC is filed in 2005 or
thereafter you would not understand why I am writing this but ask the
importance about this sentence to the people who filed GC between 2001
and 2005.RIR was kind of recent concept and zillions of oppertunists were
taking advantage of that and still system was not broken. Categories were
not mattered much like today as for both catgories avg GC time was 2 to 3
years from start to end.
2) Here comes famous year 2001 - USCIS came up with AC21 and
simultaneously RIR catgory was starting having problems as those zillions
in step 1 already started clogging "RIR" and most of them were under EB2
USCIS (Then INS) started denial or tightened screws on RIR filing. Lawyers
started to force non-rir and preferably EB3 only category. From this point
onward category started to be mattered much and that thing is still going
on today. An dyet I have not talked about the mess and pile AC21
created with tons of bogus filings. EB2 clogging already became visible due
to RIR based filings... Lawyers were forcing EB3 and non-RIR filing and
couple ing with bogus filing EB3 Queue instantly became monsterous
(Within 6 months, or by the end of 2001) . Another factor is H1b Visa limit
made 195000 from 65000
3) RIR clogging mentioned in step 2 could become controllable so new filing
again get diverted towards EB2 with the knowledge of huge piled up filing
in Eb3. By year 2002 mid USCIS start experiencing "Adminsitrative
problems" and "huge work load and insufficient staff" and hence slow
approvals for labor. Simultaneously economy bubble bursted. Many
legitimate files became garbage as people were laid off left and right. For
survival in USA those laid off people join the queues of consulting
companies and multiple filings started to become visible.
4) Year 2003 - EB2 faced little retrogression briefly for 4-5 months and
second trend of RIR denials and second trend of forcing EB3- NON RIR
filing. EB3 faced brief retrogression for 2 months. Year 2003 finished with 2
Huge lines. Eb2 and Eb3. EB2 was predominantly RIR filings.. Screaming
already started and it was about to become like July fiasco at the first
quarter of year 2004. Because logically RIR was supposed to be faster
processing and it was serving its own purpose. Somehow USCIS realized
that and in all categories Eb2 started to be processed faster and Eb3 is
blocked. (Hey USCIS had 140000 visas only per year even at that time).
So end effect at the end of year 2004 the infamous block of EB3 got
implemented successfully and EB2 was running like "milkha singh".
5) By the year 2005 first quarter many people had to still wait although they
observed that they are in EB3 trap as economy was still bad. These group
slowly started to jump the fence either using LC substitution or new direct
filing under EB2. I remember one of my frined in California was asking me
that where he should pay $ 21000 for LC to desi comapny or not.
By the end of this process of jumping the fence to EB2 accelerated and
lasted till Year 2006. PERM was introduced.Backlog Centers were introduced.
For the whole 2 years (2005, 2006 and last quarter of 2004) EB3 was blocked
and EB2 was given preference.By the end of 2006 most stuck in EB2 since 2001
were released and got their GC. Now EB3 could start flowing.
6) You already know 2007 events.
7) Bottomline now EB3 will move upwards till 2005 mid with first priority and EB
2 will also brought till 2005 mid but this will be done by moving Eb3 first as
it is already way behind.
8) Once both EB2 and EB3 reches 2005 mid bench mark Eb2 will again
become faster with comparision to EB3.
Note: I have not talked about LC substitution practice during 2001 to 2004 but that black market was already flourishing
during all those years. And Have decided not to put 9/11 as a factor because nobody has a proof that USCIS
decided slow bleed based on 9/11. Yes we feel that but we cann ot produce the proof.
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sravani
05-15 09:51 AM
Is the birth certificate required for dependants too or just the principal applicant...Can someone please clarify.....My PD is not current (EB-3 India Nov 2003)..But hoping it will be current in a few months....So just want to keep all docs ready if the dates are current.....
Yes..Dependants also must submit the Birth Certificate
Yes..Dependants also must submit the Birth Certificate
Caliber
04-09 09:29 AM
If you read my any previous posts and to repeat, there will be no issue to contribute from me or most of us here. We need an action item. Anyone with minimum common knowledge here sees there is no change in dates for the last 6 months, or even last few years. You seem to be a strong supporter of contributions, can you list one action item which we planned to take up in the last or in near future that addresses our concerns of backlogs. Now dont come back and tell me or send me a picture of July 07 campaign or your 12th grade or 10th grade marksheet. We need to be doing things of our interest EVERY single day. I do my job very good.. I know.. but I have to keep doing it everyday if I have to keep it. Similarly unless you put continuous efforts, you wont get continuous results.
If you want a reply to your post from me again, come back with an action item that you see as planned.
Which is first? Egg or Chicken?
If we have enough budget, we can hire good lobbying firm who can then guide us. Without any contributions, we can not even approach the lobbying firms for any help. The contributions that we make are not even enough for maintenance of this web site.
Why not you guide us? Hire a lobbying firm and inform every one here that it will cost this much and this is how you want to do?
I am not part of IV core. if all of us contribute big money, we can hire the best lobbying. We saw the last results.
If you want a reply to your post from me again, come back with an action item that you see as planned.
Which is first? Egg or Chicken?
If we have enough budget, we can hire good lobbying firm who can then guide us. Without any contributions, we can not even approach the lobbying firms for any help. The contributions that we make are not even enough for maintenance of this web site.
Why not you guide us? Hire a lobbying firm and inform every one here that it will cost this much and this is how you want to do?
I am not part of IV core. if all of us contribute big money, we can hire the best lobbying. We saw the last results.
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amitjoey
01-03 04:53 PM
We are 7982 members. Need only 18 members to be 8000 strong.
Good job guys!! Proud of you!!
Good job guys!! Proud of you!!
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Edison99
07-15 02:04 PM
Well said!
The emotional head turner and sympathy raiser ,"waiting since a decade", who is waiting for a decade ? eb3 ! so treat eb3 first ! If not ,dont buy that quote.
The emotional head turner and sympathy raiser ,"waiting since a decade", who is waiting for a decade ? eb3 ! so treat eb3 first ! If not ,dont buy that quote.
valysivec27
12-20 11:35 PM
I'm in a similar situation and I want to ask you if DOL withdrawn your file from the backlog center if you had a PERM application approved.
Is it Ok to have one application pending in the Backlog center and a PERM Labor certification approved if the applications are for 2 different jobs?
Thanks,
Valy
Is it Ok to have one application pending in the Backlog center and a PERM Labor certification approved if the applications are for 2 different jobs?
Thanks,
Valy
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GoneSouth
02-28 02:40 PM
Average time to get certified in last one year for EB2 Chicago = 34 days
Average time to get certified in last one year for EB2 Atlanta = 84 days
- gs
Average time to get certified in last one year for EB2 Atlanta = 84 days
- gs
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santb1975
04-07 03:27 PM
I was thinking of a Linkedin professional Network
"IV Professional Network" is a great idea... are you thinking inthe line of NetIP???
for that should we not think of new sister website! with a link provided on thru IV website!
"IV Professional Network" is a great idea... are you thinking inthe line of NetIP???
for that should we not think of new sister website! with a link provided on thru IV website!
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illusions
04-07 12:22 PM
This is a wonderful idea. Having waited for 10 years for green card, if one has to wait for 5 more years for naturalization (that allows one to vote in the elections), then it is indeed an utter discomfort. We need something like IV but with a different name: NaturalizationVoice (it would be envy -NV- of all in IV ;-)) to campaign for immediate ready-to-serve naturalization of highly skilled (like Saralayar, of course) permanent residents.. NV should also campaign for an amendment that would allow highly skilled immigrant turned naturalized citizens (eg. Saralayar) to contest as presidential candidates. If any such person wins, he or she could either ban immigration (at least for other high skilled people) or abolish waiting period for greencard.
Makes sense, like the idea of abolishing the waiting period for GC.... but with all due respect i belive that will never happen esp in a post 911 era where there is a lot of checks. I belive if they put the name check process in a fast track it would be benificial. Suks that we have to wait another 5 years after getting GC to get Citizenship, if anything i would think counting 5 years after 485 is logical.
Makes sense, like the idea of abolishing the waiting period for GC.... but with all due respect i belive that will never happen esp in a post 911 era where there is a lot of checks. I belive if they put the name check process in a fast track it would be benificial. Suks that we have to wait another 5 years after getting GC to get Citizenship, if anything i would think counting 5 years after 485 is logical.
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gimmeacard
08-05 12:46 AM
So no approvals for any EB3?
I have been waiting for the past 9+ years.....
PD : December 26th, 2001
RD : September 13th,2007
LUD: September 19th,2009
Category : EB3
Service Center : TSC (Texas)
so i am curious why did you wait that long knowing that EB3 train is a goods train w/o engine. You r pretty close now to your GC, however if 3 yrs back or so you had ported it to EB2, you wud had been greened way back.
I have been waiting for the past 9+ years.....
PD : December 26th, 2001
RD : September 13th,2007
LUD: September 19th,2009
Category : EB3
Service Center : TSC (Texas)
so i am curious why did you wait that long knowing that EB3 train is a goods train w/o engine. You r pretty close now to your GC, however if 3 yrs back or so you had ported it to EB2, you wud had been greened way back.
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Hassan11
04-01 01:26 PM
do you want the new poll for EB3 only?? ROW
Can someone please create a poll for ROW RDs. It should be monthly banded
between May to Aug 2007.
I don't find an option for me to create a poll.
Can someone please create a poll for ROW RDs. It should be monthly banded
between May to Aug 2007.
I don't find an option for me to create a poll.
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conchshell
05-16 03:56 PM
I removed congressman Henry Cuellar from the list as he is now the co sponsor of all three bills
Congratulations Everyone!! Once again we have proved that if we unite and stand, we can score a major win! After all our cause is just and legal. Great job Nixtor.
Guys please come forward .... let their phones ring untill we get them all as co sponsors!!
Congratulations Everyone!! Once again we have proved that if we unite and stand, we can score a major win! After all our cause is just and legal. Great job Nixtor.
Guys please come forward .... let their phones ring untill we get them all as co sponsors!!
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needhelp!
06-09 12:03 PM
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03-31 06:26 AM
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gccovet
08-01 01:23 PM
I'm from ATL and the latest i could get an infopass at ATL local office is on August 12th. My EAD expires Aug 22nd. I will have to ask him what to . Does anbody know if there is an interim EAD and if so, will they give it immediately or is there a "process" for that also.
Hi
Could someone please help me? I was trying to schedule an InfoPass appointment, ontheir website,
I clicked on
You need Service on a case that has already been filed
Then next page clicked on
EAD inquiry appointment - If your I-765 employment authorization application has been pending for more than 90 days.
Give me following message:
At this time, there are no information appointments available for the office in your area. Please try back again later.
Return to USCIS On-Line
I was wondering how you were able to schedule an appointment? I would appreciate if you could help me in this.
Regards,
GCCovet
Hi
Could someone please help me? I was trying to schedule an InfoPass appointment, ontheir website,
I clicked on
You need Service on a case that has already been filed
Then next page clicked on
EAD inquiry appointment - If your I-765 employment authorization application has been pending for more than 90 days.
Give me following message:
At this time, there are no information appointments available for the office in your area. Please try back again later.
Return to USCIS On-Line
I was wondering how you were able to schedule an appointment? I would appreciate if you could help me in this.
Regards,
GCCovet
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02-01 09:57 PM
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Wendall
04-11 01:28 AM
Lasantha,
Thanks for the quick response.
Yes my RD was June 15th 2007 but my ND was July 11th 2007.
What was your RD?
Thanks for the quick response.
Yes my RD was June 15th 2007 but my ND was July 11th 2007.
What was your RD?
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pappu
12-14 10:19 PM
Thank you Neelu for taking a lead on this effort. All pls help in this effort so that we can reach our membership target soon.
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panky72
05-16 11:24 AM
I called all the numbers and talked to congressional staffers. I was lucky that i got to talk to a person and not VM.
Many of them assured me that congressman is supportive of the immigration issues and will probably support the bills. Two of the staffers took my home address.
It is my first time calling congressmen offices and i was surprised to find it fairly easy :)
Many of them assured me that congressman is supportive of the immigration issues and will probably support the bills. Two of the staffers took my home address.
It is my first time calling congressmen offices and i was surprised to find it fairly easy :)
amitjoey
01-19 12:39 PM
Signed up for recurring $20 contribution.
Thanks, 872 more contributing members needed.
Thanks, 872 more contributing members needed.
MeraNaamJoker
08-04 10:46 AM
Well I responded in Oct 2008 and it had RFE status. It didnt change for the past 2 years and it changed to "RFE Review" yesterday. Is this just a coincidence or something to extract out of it ?
For RFE rebuttal, it will remain in the same status until it is approved. You should have contacted them after 60 days of your rebuttal. But as of now, it is fine I guess.
My friend had very similar situation. His status remained as REVIEW until it was finally approved. So no need to worry.
For RFE rebuttal, it will remain in the same status until it is approved. You should have contacted them after 60 days of your rebuttal. But as of now, it is fine I guess.
My friend had very similar situation. His status remained as REVIEW until it was finally approved. So no need to worry.
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